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GABRIELA
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Hallmark identification

created 20 May 2017, 08:12
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My grandmother′s tray .
Her birthplace was Bukowina-Ukraine Today.
My mother remembers it from their home before WW2 in Czernowitz.
After the holocaust they moved to Bucharest.
Can you tell me if the Hallmarks show something?
Kirils
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RE: Hallmark identification

created 23 May 2017, 13:47
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Hello Gabriela

From the marks that I can see, I can tell that this item was made in Russia, St. Petersburg. The maker is unfortunately unknown. Later on it was imported into Poland. There is an owl mark on the right that tells that is is an import. That is all that I can help you with.
GABRIELA
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RE: Hallmark identification

created 27 May 2017, 14:15
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Thank you,Kirils,
Any chance to date it?
SteveDWollongong2
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RE: Hallmark identification

created 29 May 2017, 05:04
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Hello Gabriela,

I can add some further detail and minor corrections to the information
provided by Kirils.

First, we need to keep in mind that prior to 1918, the areas that became Poland were
either part of the Russian, Austro-Hungarian or German Empires. So your tray was
made and assayed in Russia ( I can′t see the details of the Russian Kokoshnik 84 mark
very clearly but think the two cryllic letters on the right of the head belong to the
assayer assigned to Riga rather than St Petersburg. This would also fit better with
your family history.)

This particular Russian mark came into effect in 1898 and was superseded in 1908, so
that gives you the period of manufacture. Unfortunately the maker is unknown to me.

The Polish standard mark and the owl mark(called a Lombard or Lombardi mark) was introduced in 1920
when Poland was formed. The lombard owl mark is not an import mark as such. It was used
to mark objects that were resold in the newly formed country of Poland as the Government refused
to recognise the markings (including makers marks) of the prior ruling empires.

The following are the circumstances in which the owl mark was struck on silver by the Polish Assay Office:


1. On items offered for public trading by lombard shops(equivalent to a pawn shop), which did not have registered manufacturers’ hallmark affixed next to the required state mark.

2. On older items, allowed to be publicly traded which did not have registered manufacturers’ hallmark affixed next to the required state mark.

3. For marking of older items, which were allowed to be publicly traded without the obligation of marking and stamping


Thus I suspect your family purchased the tray as a used item after 1920. Keep in mind that silver was highly prized and it was commonly bought and sold and often repaired. It was even altered by the addition or the removal of design detail as tastes and fashions changed by silversmiths and jewellers, and then resold.

Cheers,
Steve
GABRIELA
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RE: Hallmark identification

created 3 Jun. 2017, 00:12
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Thank you, Steve.
If so, i suppose that it was made before 1920?
SteveDWollongong2
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RE: Hallmark identification

created 3 Jun. 2017, 04:47
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As stated above, it was definitely made between 1898 and 1908.

cheers,
Steve

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